‘Special Report’ All-Star panel on Gov. Cuomo’s sexual harassment statements, eviction moratorium

This is a hurry transcript from “Unique Report with Bret Baier,” August 4, 2021. This copy may not be in its ultimate sort and may perhaps be updated.

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Unidentified MALE: Even lifelong Republicans convey to me they glimpse at Cuomo and they are like, God, there is a leader.

Unknown MALE: You see a stunning political leader emerging from this in Andrew Cuomo.

Unidentified Female: Governor Cuomo I think is just one of the heroes on the frontlines.

Unidentified MALE: You spoke to National Guard troops right now in a stirring speech that, if I wasn’t listening carefully, I thought you were being sending troopers off to war.

Unknown Feminine: Do you think all this countrywide interest may have emboldened him?

CHARLOTTE BENNETT, Former CUOMO AIDE: Definitely. I feel he felt like he was untouchable from a whole lot of methods.

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BREAM: Let’s convey in our panel, former training secretary Invoice Bennett, Amy Walter, countrywide editor for the “Cook Political Report,” and Invoice McGurn, columnist for “The Wall Street Journal.” Let’s begin there, Amy. A large amount of individuals in the media, hear, it feels like a sample that we saw them so amped up in excess of Michael Avenatti, we saw them so enthralled by Governor Cuomo, and now they have some really hard information to digest.

AMY WALTER, Nationwide EDITOR, “Cook POLITICAL REPORT”: Well, appropriate, the contrast is what I imagine a lot of folks were seeking at in particular, from the clips that you showed there, was the contrast that they preferred to have involving then President Trump and White Home and the problems on messaging and currently being targeted on COVID, vs . what seemed like at the time New York doing it very well.

Of study course, we arrived to discover out that New York in fact wasn’t carrying out it specifically well, especially when it came to nursing households. And that seemed to be type of the tip of the iceberg here, or perhaps in which — I will combine metaphors — the place the dam broke, so to discuss. Once that investigation started, and then you started to listen to these allegations about sexual harassment, it all sort of snowballed at when. And I do imagine that the hubris was a massive piece of what made this more tough for Cuomo, mainly because he seemed to be absorbed in all of it.

BREAM: Invoice Bennett, from what we have heard each time he has been confronted, and yesterday with this very extensive investigative report that he authorized by the legal professional typical, is that he isn’t going to intend to go wherever. We can have a variety of Democrats phase forward and say it’s time for him to resign, he has received to go. But they know, most likely, as he does, he would not intend to do it. So quick of impeachment by the point out lawmakers, the condition stage individuals up there, I feel he feels very insulated.

Bill BENNETT, Previous Schooling SECRETARY: Sure. He may well stick to the Invoice Clinton, Governor Northam of Virginia reserve.

I want to converse about the media, also, but rather distinctive way. With all thanks respect, the New York-ization of the media, all of the cable, all of the networks are in New York. The rest of us out here in The usa are not all that fascinated, even nevertheless I was born and bred in New York Town, this is not the most crucial point in the country, and we are receiving saturation protection of this.

Now, what he did was at minimum offensive, unwanted, perhaps felony. But, yet again, one more level about the media, it’s all about the undesirable sexual innovations, not about what Amy was speaking about — fatalities. No person was raped, no person died on the sexual innovations, but a whole lot of persons died in nursing homes. The moral buy in this article is out of area, and the media is not supporting us get it in the suitable position.

BREAM: The DOJ claimed it is not going to glimpse into nursing property fatalities or coverage below the Cuomo administration, so that avenue — there are other individuals continuing, but that avenue with the DOJ is now shut. Our fantastic, great buddy and colleague, Janice Dean, lost each of her in-laws in just a couple of weeks, she suggests specifically for the reason that of individuals nursing property policies. This is what she’s declaring about the defense the governor is mounting on these types of allegations.

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JANICE DEAN, FOX Information: Go in entrance of these ladies who ended up abused by him, assaulted, and expressing it really is for the reason that they really don’t comprehend what I am seeking to do, like I have generally been this way. It’s so disgusting. It is each and every working day that he is even now in energy I have to shake my head and say New Yorkers wake up. This man is — he need to no for a longer period be the governor of New York.

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BREAM: So Invoice McGurn, we get a little bit of the similar feeling of, hey, these gals you should not recognize, this is just how I am. Also with respect to the criticism of him on COVID coverage, like persons do not comprehend what I’m performing. I’m forward of the curve, I’m accomplishing the right issue. You get the feeling of hubris from him on either of these incredibly warm subject areas.

Monthly bill MCGURN, COLUMNIST, “THE WALL Avenue JOURNAL”: Of course, Shannon, do you know what a shark is? A shark is essentially tooth and cartilage coated by a very little little bit of pores and skin. And everything which is in his way it decides, is it smaller and much more vulnerable, and if it is, I am likely to eat it. That’s been Andrew Cuomo’s politics.

He will not have a lot of pals in Albany. But what he does have, the New York governor is very potent, has a massive say in the distribution of income, and I consider he is counting on that electrical power to get men and women to occur about to his side. There is certainly a great deal of federal funds coming into Albany, and if you hope to get it, I believe he is making an attempt to indicate you better enjoy ball with me, stand up for me. That is his calculation.

I consider if he thinks that he will be impeached and convicted, he will go away on his very own accord, but not right until then. He will want to go out below his very own electrical power if he has to go out, but if he thinks he can brazen it as a result of, if he thinks, for instance, that there would not be ample votes to convict in the New York State Senate, I believe he will stay there. And he will abide by, as Bill claimed, the Ralph Northam reserve or some thing. Andrew Cuomo is a fighter, and he is not heading to — he is not likely to go down unless of course he has to. And it is really a single detail for the fellow Democrats, it is really effortless to connect with for someone to phase down. Let’s see if they will again it up by voting for impeachment and so forth. They want him to step down because that takes all the decisions off their plate. It tends to make it a lot much easier for them.

BREAM: Yes. So, extremely immediately, I just want to get a yes or no from just about every of you. Presented the electric power dynamic in New York that Invoice has explained, do you believe they will really impeach him? Invoice McGurn, begin with you, certainly or no.

MCGURN: I do not think it will get to that. I assume if he thinks if there is an impeachment, he will leave. So no.

BREAM: Bill Bennett?

BENNETT: I do not consider so.

BREAM: All ideal, Amy?

WALTER: I imagine he is headed that way. And that is really distinctive from where by we were being in Virginia where by there was also a lieutenant governor who was similarly scandal-tarred. That’s not the scenario below in New York.

BREAM: And the range a few in Virginia, the lawyer standard there as properly, had the all stepped apart, it would have left a Republican running Virginia, which Democrats were obviously not in favor of executing.

All suitable, panel, stick around. Up upcoming traditional Democrats vs . progressives as we search ahead to the midterm elections.

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REP. CORI BUSH, (D-MO): Activists are in Congress, so count on, count on for points to be distinctive than what possibly folks are used to.

REP. PATRICK MCHENRY, (R-NC): They may perhaps be activists, but they are not informed. They are not policymakers.

BUSH: We will go on to convey the identical vitality as we go on on. So be wanting for that.

MCHENRY: If you want to go make a variance, go legislate.

BUSH: We are servant leaders. We first serve mainly because we love our communities.

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BREAM: We are back again now with our panel to communicate about the progressive wing of the Democratic Social gathering as opposed to the institution, and every little thing in involving. Alright, let us commence in this article. To start with of all, one particular of the points that the far more progressive squad backed wing of the occasion has truly backed is this extension on a ban on evictions. The Supreme Court has presently gotten concerned in this, and I want to take note this from “The Wall Street Journal” editorial board states the eviction ban has to end someday, indicating “5 justices this summer season allow the eviction ban stand until expired. But Justice Brett Kavanaugh’s caveat was the policy could not be ongoing with out, quote, “clear and distinct congressional authorization by using new legislation.” Certainly, that failed to come about. “Mr. Biden could be bending less than progressive stress to reinstate the ban. This would be strikingly lawless, as the White Dwelling has admitted.”

So Invoice McGurn, how much pressure is the White Property less than to do the bidding of the far remaining progressive aspect of the get together?

MCGURN: Nicely, I think they are below a great deal of tension not just on this but on anything from all the other payments that they are looking at to the Hyde amendment and so forth. The progressives may perhaps not be the numerical greater part in the Democratic caucus, but they are driving the practice. It really is Bernie Sanders reconciliation ideas that are likely to get place by. And search, we have experienced moderate Democrats pointed out just before, that the progressives takes on crime and so forth practically price the election. Nancy Pelosi can only spare a few seats.

And what is most instructive about the case you talked about about the evictions, continuing this, Joe Biden is continuing it even soon after he admitted he isn’t going to really have the constitutional authority to do that. And 1 explanation that Nancy Pelosi and so forth want him to do it is I feel they are not sure they have the votes, or they don’t want to go on history.

Which is just one of the things about the progressive experiment, they actually will not want to set it to the legislative take a look at and go out there and have votes. They would a lot instead have government orders and so forth. And I assume that speaks to the deep down fears that a ton of this stuff is not that well-known.

BREAM: And Invoice Bennet, this receives to the left’s argument in the course of the Trump administration was that he was busting up norms, that he was getting points accomplished as a result of govt orders, which the opposing party is generally likely to have that criticism of the president in electrical power. But they saved conversing about how he was going to eviscerate the way matters worked and the checks and balances and the several responsibilities and obligations and privileges of each individual of the branches, and, nevertheless, in this article what we continue to see from the significantly still left is to say, as Invoice McGurn pointed out, Ok, if we won’t be able to get it completed legislatively, let’s go by the govt department or some other back again door.

BENNETT: Yes, and they are owning hassle acquiring it performed legislatively. It is attention-grabbing, because as Bill says, the electrical power is undoubtedly on the remaining, and the agenda is becoming set by the remaining. But they can’t get a great deal of it as a result of. Part of this is 50-50 in the Senate and a pretty close Property, but part of it also I consider is a good deal of these reasonable Democrats who are quiet.

The primary issue about AOC and group is that they are noisy. They make a good deal of sound, so they get a good deal of media. Here I am once more on the media. The reasonable Biden people will not make a large amount of sounds. But some of these folks, a great deal of them I feel are coming to their senses, and they’re stating, wait a minute, what did we obtain in this article particularly? We assumed we were purchasing a average left, centrist Democrat, not this dude who has been pushing for all this.

And watch the legislative. I would be interested to hear what Amy has to say about this, this election most important consequence in Cleveland the place the extremely progressive and quite well-liked Nina Turner shed to Shontel Brown, who is a lot a lot more the institution applicant. Is this is a harbinger of matters to appear? And if it is really not, just hold out and see what transpires if Democrat governors and progressives try out to lock down the place for the reason that of Delta, and moderate Democrats in the middle say, hold out a minute, we experimented with that just before. It can be not likely to transpire. Then you will see this fisher transform into a crater, a breaking aspect of a crater.

BREAM: And Democrats clearly have some interior considerations. I want to read through some thing from “Politico.” Is suggests “throughout a closed-door lunch very last week with some of his most susceptible incumbents, Dwelling Democrats campaign chief sent a blunt warning if the midterms were being held now, they would get rid of the majority. Representative Sean Patrick Maloney, a Democrat out of New York, followed that bleak forecast, which was confirmed by many people today common with the conversation, with new polling that showed Democrats falling powering Republicans by a half dozen details on a generic ballot in battleground districts.” So, Amy, your response to that conversation internally and to the Shontel Brown gain?

WALTER: Indeed, we will start with Ohio. And seem, it truly is under no circumstances a fantastic thought if you are a applicant managing outwardly as a Bernie Sanders prospect, endorsed prospect. You carry Bernie Sanders into the district the past number of times of the marketing campaign in a district that not only did Joe Biden acquire the primary, but Hillary Clinton won overwhelmingly in 2016. This is a performing course, mostly African-American district in which Joe Biden is very popular, where by Hillary Clinton was incredibly well-liked. Staying the candidate who has proven distaste for both of them publicly wasn’t a fantastic seem in a district like that.

I also imagine you do see a incredibly massive difference in between the outsiders on the still left and the outsiders on the correct. The achievement that several in the Tea Social gathering or now we could phone the Trump wing of the social gathering have experienced in beating the establishment candidates has been considerably larger. They have a considerably greater batting typical than people on the remaining heading from the more institution sorts. I feel that there is a misreading by several that whilst the power, and Invoice made this position, the electricity might be on the still left and with individuals candidates and the focus that they are obtaining, they are not always in which the social gathering is. Which is the bet that Joe Biden created in 2020, and it however is one that is working now.

BREAM: And one of the reminders that Twitter is not the true globe. We all have to remember that.

Alright, when we occur back, tomorrow’s headlines.

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BREAM: Ultimately tonight, a glimpse at tomorrow’s headlines. Monthly bill Bennett, kick us off?

BENNETT: Alright, the secretary of training, pretty essential task, by the way, announced that everyone will be back in university five times a week. Fantastic. Apart from the small kids will be putting on masks. Wait for the mom and dad with pitchforks and torches and mask-significantly less. When I was the secretary of education, even nevertheless I was a conservative Catholic, we taught that the earth revolves all around the solar, like it or not.

BREAM: All proper, Amy, up following.

WALTER: It can be heading to say this — the new Delta variant moreover fears of inflation are taking a poll on President Biden’s approval ratings. We have had 3 polls out in these previous several days, all displaying a slight dip in his over-all approval rating, and a even larger dip in acceptance of his handling of COVID and the financial system.

BREAM: Super fast from you, Monthly bill.

MCGURN: Taliban setting up Joe Biden for an uncomfortable 9/11. That anniversary is very likely to discover the Taliban declaring see, we advised you the Americans failed to have the abdomen for the extended haul, and we have been proper.

BREAM: Thank you, Bill.

That’s it for Unique REPORT. On to Ben Domenech now for PRIMETIME.

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